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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
		<link>http://rulefortytwo.com/2008/09/16/single-disc-outkast/#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&lt;em&gt;The whole RIAA all-time list is filled with sham “best-sellers”&lt;/em&gt;

You know who the secret hero of your post is, in my opinion? Shania Twain. You may recall that your purchase of &lt;em&gt;Up!&lt;/em&gt; got you two discs: one with a country mix of the songs, another with a pop mix of the same songs. But although the album qualified for double RIAA credit, Twain eschewed it (basically feeling it didn&#039;t pass the smell test). &lt;em&gt;Up!&lt;/em&gt; ended up being certified for 11 million copies in the United States, no small beer, but had Twain not been principled about it, the record would be ranked as the &lt;em&gt;fifth&lt;/em&gt; best-selling record of all time (tied with &lt;em&gt;Back in Black,&lt;/em&gt; also produced by Mutt).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>><em>The whole RIAA all-time list is filled with sham “best-sellers”</em></p>
<p>You know who the secret hero of your post is, in my opinion? Shania Twain. You may recall that your purchase of <em>Up!</em> got you two discs: one with a country mix of the songs, another with a pop mix of the same songs. But although the album qualified for double RIAA credit, Twain eschewed it (basically feeling it didn&#8217;t pass the smell test). <em>Up!</em> ended up being certified for 11 million copies in the United States, no small beer, but had Twain not been principled about it, the record would be ranked as the <em>fifth</em> best-selling record of all time (tied with <em>Back in Black,</em> also produced by Mutt).</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You know that double albums get counted for twice the sales, right? That’s almost certainly why Songs in the Key of Life is Wonder’s best-seller.&lt;/i&gt;

I sure do, and funny you mention that: I&#039;m about to do an Idolator post on this very topic. The whole RIAA all-time list is filled with sham &quot;best-sellers&quot; (and their names are &lt;i&gt;The Wall&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;Billy Joel Greatest Hits Vols. I &amp; II&lt;/i&gt;, and...yes, The White Album).

&lt;i&gt; It was huge. It was an event. It debuted at number one, back when that meant something (I think it was the third album to do so). &lt;/i&gt;

All correct, as well as everything else you said. I still think &lt;i&gt;Songs&lt;/i&gt; is overrated as an album (overstuffed, to be specific; gimme &lt;i&gt;Innervisions&lt;/i&gt; over &lt;i&gt;Songs&lt;/i&gt; any day), but there&#039;s no denying it was a cultural event and a culmination to one of the most amazing runs in pop-music history. And the best tracks on it positively &lt;i&gt;kill&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You know that double albums get counted for twice the sales, right? That’s almost certainly why Songs in the Key of Life is Wonder’s best-seller.</i></p>
<p>I sure do, and funny you mention that: I&#8217;m about to do an Idolator post on this very topic. The whole RIAA all-time list is filled with sham &#8220;best-sellers&#8221; (and their names are <i>The Wall</i>, <i>Billy Joel Greatest Hits Vols. I &amp; II</i>, and&#8230;yes, The White Album).</p>
<p><i> It was huge. It was an event. It debuted at number one, back when that meant something (I think it was the third album to do so). </i></p>
<p>All correct, as well as everything else you said. I still think <i>Songs</i> is overrated as an album (overstuffed, to be specific; gimme <i>Innervisions</i> over <i>Songs</i> any day), but there&#8217;s no denying it was a cultural event and a culmination to one of the most amazing runs in pop-music history. And the best tracks on it positively <i>kill</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Scraps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scraps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh, I would have guessed &lt;i&gt;Songs in the Key of Life&lt;/i&gt; as Stevie&#039;s best-selling album anyway.  It was huge.  It was an event.  It debuted at number one, back when that meant something (I think it was the third album to do so).  &quot;I Wish&quot; and &quot;Sir Duke&quot; were big hits, even for Stevie, and it had several songs that got big radio play (&quot;Isn&#039;t She Lovely&quot;, &quot;As&quot;, &quot;Another Star&quot;, &quot;Love&#039;s in Need of Love Today&quot;). My memory -- not the most reliable instrument -- is that at the time it was considered the culmination of a great run, and the peak, both artistically and commercially (though critically it&#039;s probably rated about the same level as &lt;i&gt;Innervisions&lt;/i&gt; these days).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh, I would have guessed <i>Songs in the Key of Life</i> as Stevie&#8217;s best-selling album anyway.  It was huge.  It was an event.  It debuted at number one, back when that meant something (I think it was the third album to do so).  &#8220;I Wish&#8221; and &#8220;Sir Duke&#8221; were big hits, even for Stevie, and it had several songs that got big radio play (&#8220;Isn&#8217;t She Lovely&#8221;, &#8220;As&#8221;, &#8220;Another Star&#8221;, &#8220;Love&#8217;s in Need of Love Today&#8221;). My memory &#8212; not the most reliable instrument &#8212; is that at the time it was considered the culmination of a great run, and the peak, both artistically and commercially (though critically it&#8217;s probably rated about the same level as <i>Innervisions</i> these days).</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. When I told originally told people that I had picked this double album, I frequently got the reaction &quot;Are you just going to cut all of Big Boi&#039;s songs?&quot; Which demonstrates that they really hadn&#039;t listened to either record (but liked &quot;Hey Ya!&quot; a lot). The weak stuff on Speakerboxxx tended towards the generic, but the good songs were cool and trippy and hard. (&quot;The Rooster&quot; is my favorite song on the whole shebang.)

(in re Chris&#039;s interesting old blog post)
You know that double albums get counted for twice the sales, right? That&#039;s almost certainly why Songs in the Key of Life is Wonder&#039;s best-seller.

Also: I think of Use Your Illusion as one mega-album that got split into two for marketing purposes. I think of Human Touch and Lucky Town as two separate albums, albeit ones without a clear distinction between them. (Actually, I think of them as Springsteen&#039;s biggest misstep ever. So far as I can tell, there was no motivation for that project beyond &quot;I can have two albums on top of the charts too!&quot; It was poetic justice that neither of them hit #1.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. When I told originally told people that I had picked this double album, I frequently got the reaction &#8220;Are you just going to cut all of Big Boi&#8217;s songs?&#8221; Which demonstrates that they really hadn&#8217;t listened to either record (but liked &#8220;Hey Ya!&#8221; a lot). The weak stuff on Speakerboxxx tended towards the generic, but the good songs were cool and trippy and hard. (&#8220;The Rooster&#8221; is my favorite song on the whole shebang.)</p>
<p>(in re Chris&#8217;s interesting old blog post)<br />
You know that double albums get counted for twice the sales, right? That&#8217;s almost certainly why Songs in the Key of Life is Wonder&#8217;s best-seller.</p>
<p>Also: I think of Use Your Illusion as one mega-album that got split into two for marketing purposes. I think of Human Touch and Lucky Town as two separate albums, albeit ones without a clear distinction between them. (Actually, I think of them as Springsteen&#8217;s biggest misstep ever. So far as I can tell, there was no motivation for that project beyond &#8220;I can have two albums on top of the charts too!&#8221; It was poetic justice that neither of them hit #1.)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was waiting for you to get to this one. I &lt;a href=&quot;http://molanphy.livejournal.com/25226.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;did the same thing&lt;/a&gt; back in 2003, and I still have my mix, which I called &lt;i&gt;The Love Boxxx&lt;/i&gt;, on my iPod; it&#039;s pretty much the only way I listen to &lt;i&gt;SB/TLB&lt;/i&gt;, when I do put it on.

Your edit is slightly more severe than mine. (Glad to see you didn&#039;t try to get it all the way down to vinyl length!) As you see on my old blog post, at first I got it down to 90 minutes, but if you scroll down to my addendum comment, I eventually got it down to single-CD length by chopping a few more songs and using audio-editing software (a cheat, I know) to make some of the keeper songs shorter. (&quot;Roses,&quot; the album&#039;s third single/Top 10 hit, is six minutes in its original form!) Final number of songs: 22.

I haven&#039;t read this blog post of mine in years, but I ended up digressing into a discussion of double-albums in general. Basically, you and I were on the same wavelength on all this.

Key excerpt of my post--on OutKast specifically--if you don&#039;t feel like reading all of my blather:

&lt;i&gt;[A] couple of listens have already convinced me I&#039;ve created a better album. And it&#039;s amazing, almost infuriating, how easily Boi&#039;s songs and Dre&#039;s songs work together. They really could have had their very own White Album, a pastiche of Boi songs and Dre songs complementing and commenting on each other. The strategy they chose instead shows, at worst, a failure of courage, or at best that they didn&#039;t realize what they had. Much as McCartney and Lennon are wrongly oversimplified as &quot;the melodic one&quot; and &quot;the rockin&#039; one,&quot; Dre and Boi are more complex – and closer to each other – than casual fans or even they themselves might suspect.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was waiting for you to get to this one. I <a href="http://molanphy.livejournal.com/25226.html" rel="nofollow">did the same thing</a> back in 2003, and I still have my mix, which I called <i>The Love Boxxx</i>, on my iPod; it&#8217;s pretty much the only way I listen to <i>SB/TLB</i>, when I do put it on.</p>
<p>Your edit is slightly more severe than mine. (Glad to see you didn&#8217;t try to get it all the way down to vinyl length!) As you see on my old blog post, at first I got it down to 90 minutes, but if you scroll down to my addendum comment, I eventually got it down to single-CD length by chopping a few more songs and using audio-editing software (a cheat, I know) to make some of the keeper songs shorter. (&#8220;Roses,&#8221; the album&#8217;s third single/Top 10 hit, is six minutes in its original form!) Final number of songs: 22.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read this blog post of mine in years, but I ended up digressing into a discussion of double-albums in general. Basically, you and I were on the same wavelength on all this.</p>
<p>Key excerpt of my post&#8211;on OutKast specifically&#8211;if you don&#8217;t feel like reading all of my blather:</p>
<p><i>[A] couple of listens have already convinced me I&#8217;ve created a better album. And it&#8217;s amazing, almost infuriating, how easily Boi&#8217;s songs and Dre&#8217;s songs work together. They really could have had their very own White Album, a pastiche of Boi songs and Dre songs complementing and commenting on each other. The strategy they chose instead shows, at worst, a failure of courage, or at best that they didn&#8217;t realize what they had. Much as McCartney and Lennon are wrongly oversimplified as &#8220;the melodic one&#8221; and &#8220;the rockin&#8217; one,&#8221; Dre and Boi are more complex – and closer to each other – than casual fans or even they themselves might suspect.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Scraps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scraps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll bet &quot;Behold a Lady&quot; sounds a lot better without &quot;Good Day, Good Sir&quot; in front of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll bet &#8220;Behold a Lady&#8221; sounds a lot better without &#8220;Good Day, Good Sir&#8221; in front of it.</p>
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