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	<title>Comments on: 1988 Countdown #89: The Traveling Wilburys, &#8220;Handle With Care&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
		<link>http://rulefortytwo.com/2008/07/10/1988-countdown-89-the-traveling-wilburys-handle-with-care/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just heard Chrissie Hynde on the radio, about to play a Dhani Harrison song, making the offhanded comment that George Harrison and Jim Keltner were best friends. Which probably explains why Ringo didn't get the call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just heard Chrissie Hynde on the radio, about to play a Dhani Harrison song, making the offhanded comment that George Harrison and Jim Keltner were best friends. Which probably explains why Ringo didn&#8217;t get the call.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Nawrocki</title>
		<link>http://rulefortytwo.com/2008/07/10/1988-countdown-89-the-traveling-wilburys-handle-with-care/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Nawrocki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best thing in that video is Dylan riding the bike at the end, just like the best thing in his video for "Things Have Changed" is him eating a sandwich at the end. I think it's important for Dylan to occasionally remind us that he is indeed made of human flesh.

In addition to the lack of harmonica visuals and lack of guitar-solo visuals, someone harmonizes with Harrison on the last verse, but no one is shown singing along with him in the video.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best thing in that video is Dylan riding the bike at the end, just like the best thing in his video for &#8220;Things Have Changed&#8221; is him eating a sandwich at the end. I think it&#8217;s important for Dylan to occasionally remind us that he is indeed made of human flesh.</p>
<p>In addition to the lack of harmonica visuals and lack of guitar-solo visuals, someone harmonizes with Harrison on the last verse, but no one is shown singing along with him in the video.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin</title>
		<link>http://rulefortytwo.com/2008/07/10/1988-countdown-89-the-traveling-wilburys-handle-with-care/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right, Chris. Oddly, there's more demographic variance now in the album charts (because the numbers week-to-week are small enough to get weird cultish stuff into the top ten), but less on MTV or pop radio.

Rob's Wilbury review was in the magazine, not the record guide. &lt;a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/15041732/review/15085506/traveling_wilburys__vol_1" rel="nofollow"&gt;Here's a link&lt;/a&gt;. Questions for further study: Why did &lt;em&gt;Full Moon Fever&lt;/em&gt; come out so well? Was it just that Petty had a firmer idea of how he wanted it to sound? And why has Lynne's 1970s work (with ELO) aged so much better than his 1980s productions?

I haven't listened to &lt;em&gt;Volume One&lt;/em&gt; in a long time, but I pulled out &lt;em&gt;Volume 3&lt;/em&gt; (which I always preferred) last night, which confirmed my suspicions on the Wilburys: the funny songs (like "Tweeter and the Monkey Man," "Wilbury Twist," and "Cool Dry Place") have aged well, the rest of it hasn't.

By the way, I assume that harmonica solo was Dylan's, because really, if he's hanging around, why would anybody else do it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Chris. Oddly, there&#8217;s more demographic variance now in the album charts (because the numbers week-to-week are small enough to get weird cultish stuff into the top ten), but less on MTV or pop radio.</p>
<p>Rob&#8217;s Wilbury review was in the magazine, not the record guide. <a href="http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/15041732/review/15085506/traveling_wilburys__vol_1" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s a link</a>. Questions for further study: Why did <em>Full Moon Fever</em> come out so well? Was it just that Petty had a firmer idea of how he wanted it to sound? And why has Lynne&#8217;s 1970s work (with ELO) aged so much better than his 1980s productions?</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t listened to <em>Volume One</em> in a long time, but I pulled out <em>Volume 3</em> (which I always preferred) last night, which confirmed my suspicions on the Wilburys: the funny songs (like &#8220;Tweeter and the Monkey Man,&#8221; &#8220;Wilbury Twist,&#8221; and &#8220;Cool Dry Place&#8221;) have aged well, the rest of it hasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>By the way, I assume that harmonica solo was Dylan&#8217;s, because really, if he&#8217;s hanging around, why would anybody else do it?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M.</title>
		<link>http://rulefortytwo.com/2008/07/10/1988-countdown-89-the-traveling-wilburys-handle-with-care/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.P.S. Sorry, one further thought...

I could've brought this up on your Glenn Frey post, but it's even more clear here: You know what really dates this countdown? &lt;b&gt;The inclusion of music appealing primarily to people over 30.&lt;/b&gt; And I kind of miss it; I was 17 in 1988, but I liked the Wilburys back then, and it didn't seem weird or embarrassing to me that it was cheek-by-jowl with the likes of Pet Shop Boys.

Sure, VH1 existed in 1988 -- I believe it was around three years old -- and clearly this got a lot of play there, but that didn't automatically disqualify a video from some lesser amount of straight MTV play. Of course, that was when both MTV and VH1 filled their days largely with music videos and thus needed a wider selection.

And of course, nowadays, even VH1 (forget MTV) is going for a demographic too young for this video. Not that either channel plays videos anymore. Ah, crap, now I'm starting to sound &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; old and grumpy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.P.S. Sorry, one further thought&#8230;</p>
<p>I could&#8217;ve brought this up on your Glenn Frey post, but it&#8217;s even more clear here: You know what really dates this countdown? <b>The inclusion of music appealing primarily to people over 30.</b> And I kind of miss it; I was 17 in 1988, but I liked the Wilburys back then, and it didn&#8217;t seem weird or embarrassing to me that it was cheek-by-jowl with the likes of Pet Shop Boys.</p>
<p>Sure, VH1 existed in 1988 &#8212; I believe it was around three years old &#8212; and clearly this got a lot of play there, but that didn&#8217;t automatically disqualify a video from some lesser amount of straight MTV play. Of course, that was when both MTV and VH1 filled their days largely with music videos and thus needed a wider selection.</p>
<p>And of course, nowadays, even VH1 (forget MTV) is going for a demographic too young for this video. Not that either channel plays videos anymore. Ah, crap, now I&#8217;m starting to sound <i>really</i> old and grumpy.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M.</title>
		<link>http://rulefortytwo.com/2008/07/10/1988-countdown-89-the-traveling-wilburys-handle-with-care/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the Wilburys record a lot back in the day, but it hasn't aged well, as Rob S. seems to agree (I believe he downgraded the formerly four-star-rated &lt;i&gt;Volume One&lt;/i&gt; to two stars in the recent &lt;i&gt;RS Record Guide&lt;/i&gt;).

It also seems, in retrospect, like Lynne's prototype for every production job he did from the late ’80s to the mid-’90s: Harrison's &lt;i&gt;Cloud Nine&lt;/i&gt; (which actually precedes the Wilburys), Petty's solo record, Lynne's own solo record, and least successfully, the Beatles' 1995 comeback. I'd say "Handle With Care," as heavy-handed/thudding Lynne productions go, is up the middle: not as desecrating as "Free as a Bird" (a not-bad Lennon song badly marred by Lynne's attempts to turn it into the Reclamation Of George Harrison project), not as deft and smooth as &lt;i&gt;Full Moon Fever&lt;/i&gt;. On "Handle," the double-tracking Lynne puts on Keltner's downbeat at the end of every stanza is some kind of dreary metaphor for the boxy sound of late-’80s production.

P.S. You're so right about Ringo. Unless the music video for Petty's "I Won't Back Down" is a bit of fakery, Ringo obviously is tight enough with that gang to play drums when asked. And that song came out, like, six months after this one! Nothing against Keltner, but why &lt;i&gt;didn't&lt;/i&gt; they just get Ringo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the Wilburys record a lot back in the day, but it hasn&#8217;t aged well, as Rob S. seems to agree (I believe he downgraded the formerly four-star-rated <i>Volume One</i> to two stars in the recent <i>RS Record Guide</i>).</p>
<p>It also seems, in retrospect, like Lynne&#8217;s prototype for every production job he did from the late ’80s to the mid-’90s: Harrison&#8217;s <i>Cloud Nine</i> (which actually precedes the Wilburys), Petty&#8217;s solo record, Lynne&#8217;s own solo record, and least successfully, the Beatles&#8217; 1995 comeback. I&#8217;d say &#8220;Handle With Care,&#8221; as heavy-handed/thudding Lynne productions go, is up the middle: not as desecrating as &#8220;Free as a Bird&#8221; (a not-bad Lennon song badly marred by Lynne&#8217;s attempts to turn it into the Reclamation Of George Harrison project), not as deft and smooth as <i>Full Moon Fever</i>. On &#8220;Handle,&#8221; the double-tracking Lynne puts on Keltner&#8217;s downbeat at the end of every stanza is some kind of dreary metaphor for the boxy sound of late-’80s production.</p>
<p>P.S. You&#8217;re so right about Ringo. Unless the music video for Petty&#8217;s &#8220;I Won&#8217;t Back Down&#8221; is a bit of fakery, Ringo obviously is tight enough with that gang to play drums when asked. And that song came out, like, six months after this one! Nothing against Keltner, but why <i>didn&#8217;t</i> they just get Ringo?</p>
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